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Post by Kobie on Dec 14, 2005 17:40:39 GMT 1
Don't you think it would be easy for our members to see on one page what qualifications a dog needs to become Champion of a certain (Worldwide) country ??
Please feel free to post the regulations of your country.
In Belgium
Belgian show Champion: 1/ 2 CAC's in Belgium obtained by different judges. 2/ 1 field trial point, obtained in a Belgian field trial (= at least qualification CQN or more ....) 3/ between the first and last CAC or field trial point need to be a period of 1 year.
Belgium gives always CAC and CACIB together in a CACIB show. A CAC given on one dog and the CACIB to another dog is not allowed in our country.
International show Champion 1/ 2 CACIB's obtained in 2 different countries, judged by 2 different judges 2/ at field trial at least a qualification 'good' or more (> very good, excellent, RCACT or CACT). CQN qualification in not enough to gaine this title.... 3/ there need to be minimum a period of 1 year and 1 day between the first and last CACIB.
In Luxembourg
Junior Champion of Luxembourg A dog need to be entered into youthclass (9-18 months), marked 1st Excellent = youthchampion
Champion of Luxembourg
From Intermediaire class to Championclass, one CACL is given to 1st Excellent. So here, each class can get a CACL. You need to have 2 CACL's --> Lux. Ch. If a dog is already Champion of a certain county, you need to have one CACL in championclass to obtain this title (only for Championclass), other classes --> 2 CACL's, even if the dog is champion (Luxembourg has 2 shows each year) The CACIB is for the best dog and best bitch....
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Post by daniela on Dec 14, 2005 19:35:57 GMT 1
Hi
There is a thread for this already. Not all on one page but certainly filed away under one thread.
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Post by Irena on Dec 14, 2005 21:13:22 GMT 1
That's an excellent idea, Kobie.
Also we must note, IF we have such info, that it can depend on which country the dog comes from.
E.g., to become a Ch of Denmark, a dog that is a champion of other country and lives in Estonia needs one CAC, whereas a champion from Latvia needs 3 CAC's.
Thanks for the idea, let's all post it on this thread!
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Post by Irena on Dec 14, 2005 21:14:07 GMT 1
Hi There is a thread for this already. Not all on one page but certainly filed away under one thread. Oh, I didn't realize that. Whatever, great idea!
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Post by daniela on Dec 14, 2005 21:20:00 GMT 1
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Post by Kobie on Dec 15, 2005 7:18:55 GMT 1
There are only a few regulations on that treath ! Please, fill in for example these countries: Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Ireland, Germany, Sweden, Russia ........ Also nice to know how to become Junior Champion, Grand champion, ...... All information welcome....
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Post by Kobie on Dec 15, 2005 7:24:32 GMT 1
I have some information for Brazil,
Master Champion title is given to dogs who won 4 times BIS all breeds !
You can give the dog the International Champion title, when a dog obtaine 4 X CACIB under 4 different judges. (no field trial point required)
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Post by Ilana on Dec 15, 2005 13:35:35 GMT 1
Kobie,
Are you sure that You can give the dog the International Champion title, when a dog obtaine 4 X CACIB under 4 different judges.
without field trial point ?
International Champion is a FCI title???
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Post by Ilana on Dec 15, 2005 13:38:10 GMT 1
To become a Ch of Denmark, a dog that is a champion of other country and lives in Israel needs one CAC,
(a champion from Israel needs 3 CAC's)
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Post by Kobie on Dec 15, 2005 15:12:07 GMT 1
Kobie, Are you sure that You can give the dog the International Champion title, when a dog obtaine 4 X CACIB under 4 different judges. without field trial point ? International Champion is a FCI title??? Ilana, It consern dogs who lives in Brazil. There they have no possibilities to do field trials because of the heat. This title is different to the FCI International title, but exsiste....
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Post by daniela on Dec 15, 2005 20:01:48 GMT 1
That's interesting about the heat factor, I didn't know that.
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Post by syrinx on Dec 16, 2005 11:30:36 GMT 1
Australia. To be a champion here, you need 100 points. They are awarded by the number of dogs you beat, although you don't need to beat any to be a champion. For being awarded the CC and being the only dog or bitch there, you get 6 points, so 17 of them will give you 102 points, so there is your champion. You can get points from the age of 6 months, but of your 100 points, 25 of them have to be awarded over the age of 12 months. If you are not the only dog or bitch and get the CC, then you get the six points, plus one for every one you beat. So if there are a total of two there, you get 7, a total of three, you get 8, and so on, to a maximum of 25, which is what you get at a reasonable sized show for Best In Group. When you go up against the other CC winner for Best of Breed, you get the points for all of the breed that you beat. Back in the 'old days', you only got the points for your gender, so you could be the only dog and get 6 points, but then there could be 10 bitches, so the BCC winner could get 15 points. Now the DCC would get 16. I like the rule change, as one of my girls has had a 25 point Best Of Breed. Very nice! On the bottom of the CC is a statement that the judge signs that says that they are clearly of the opinion that this exhibit is of sufficient merit to be awarded the title of Australian Champion, so you can be the only one of your breed in the country and get your title. The minimum number of CCs you need to get your title is 4, as long as they are 25 points each, so you either have to get 4 BIGs or be from a popular breed, to do it that way. I think that there is a requirement for the CCs to be awarded by at least 4 different judges. To get a Grand Championship, you need 1000 points. The points are worked out in exactly the same way. And yep, you can get 167 x 6point challenges, and be a Grand Champion. There are no requirements for field trials or anything else, to have to be done, and so very few people in Australia with Weis hunt with them anyway. Most show dogs only show. Hunting is not really very common here, and it is illegal in my State. For a dog that has it's show title, it can become a dual Ch by getting it's Tracking Ch, or Obedience Ch, or triple if they get both. Then there's Retrieving Ch if you either live in the right State, or travel. Wendy
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Post by syrinx on Dec 16, 2005 11:31:59 GMT 1
We also have a tracking and retrieving season, as it is too hot and dry, and too great a risk of snakes. And there is a temperature requirement for Obedience Trials. Once it gets to ___________ degrees, it's off. No, I don't actually know the temp, just the fact that they stop. I think it is the same with tracking. But when in some places inland it can go well over 45 degrees celcius, that is fair enough to only do it when it is more comfortable for the dog. Wendy
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Post by Kobie on Dec 16, 2005 12:41:12 GMT 1
Thanks Wendy for your explenation !!!
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Post by daniela on Dec 16, 2005 15:10:53 GMT 1
LOL Wendy.....I think I am going to have to read that several times to understand it!
It's very mathematical and very similar to the Irish system.
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Post by Irena on Dec 17, 2005 15:07:23 GMT 1
Danish beauty championship - general conditions
There are 2 ways of obtaining the Danish Beauty Champion title - depending on the dog’s country of registration (i.e. the owner’s country of residence):
Certificates (CACs): a. Dogs owned and registered in all countries can become a Danish beauty champion by obtaining 3 certificates (3 CACs) under 3 different judges.
b. Dogs owned and registered in Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Israel, Norway, Russia and Sweden can moreover become a Danish beauty champion by obtaining 1 certificate (CAC), if the dog has obtained or obtains a national champion title in one of the (above) countries in question.
This is the result of a reciprocal agreement that the DKK has made with the kennel clubs of the (above) countries in question regarding national beauty champion titles.
However, the Swedish Kennel Club and the Finnish Kennel Club demand that the counting certificate must be obtained in Sweden or Finland respectively, after the dog has attained the age of 24 months.
In both cases, the last certificate (CAC) must have been obtained after the dog has attained the age of 18 months, if it is a small breed. For large breeds, the last certificate (CAC) must have been obtained after the dog has attained the age of 24 months. The breed/age division appears from the DKK show regulations.
Further requirements: For some breeds, a working trial, a certain hip dysplasia level or the like is required in order to become a Danish beauty champion. These further requirements must of course in both of the above cases be fulfilled in order for the dog to become a Danish beauty champion. The requirements that must be met in order to become a Danish Beauty Champion appear from the DKK show regulations. Danish owned dogs must meet the requirements mentioned in the show regulations. Foreign owned dogs must meet requirements that are comparable with the Danish requirements.
For specific breed information e.g. regarding trials or other demands, please consult the DKK information stands at our international shows or contact the information department at the Dansk Kennel Klub.
Registration and confirmation: When your dog has become a Danish Beauty Champion, please fill in the form (see the pdf-file below) and send it to the awards department of the DKK. If necessary, please enclose some documentation that the dog has obtained the required trial as well as, in case b., some documentation that the dog is already a national champion.
If you would like to order a Danish or Nordic Beauty Champion diploma, please pay DKK 50.00. If your dog has also become a Nordic Beauty Champion, we please ask you to send us copies of confirmation of national championship in 2 other Nordic countries (apart from Denmark). Further requirements for weimaraner:
The dog must have obtained a 1st prize in open - or working class in a DKK-field trial (or a field trial in your own country that is similar to the Danish one) and a retrieving test.
Remember to obtain CAC you need to enter the dog in the working class (to enter there - please enclose copy of the FCI working certificate).From www.dansk-kennel-klub.dk/891 and personal communication by email with a DKK official.
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Post by syrinx on Dec 19, 2005 13:25:40 GMT 1
Daniela, I am most disappointed that the Irish system does not include Guiness, or at least a song! Wendy
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Post by daniela on Dec 19, 2005 17:34:32 GMT 1
Well Wendy you can't have read the judges' regulations......!
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Post by Irena on Dec 26, 2005 14:51:31 GMT 1
Cyprus:
only for foreign entries
If your dog is a CHampion , entered in CHampion class in an International Dog Show and awarded the CAC then you become a CYPRUS ChampionFrom: www.cypruskennelclub.com/shows2005.html
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Post by cummel on Oct 25, 2006 20:01:19 GMT 1
Germany:
VDH Champion: 5 CAC from at least 3 different judges Show in Dortmund tells double CAC can (not must!) get the best exellent dog of his/her class at least one year and 1 day between first and last CAC
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