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Post by rivenwil on May 23, 2005 19:55:53 GMT 1
Hello, thank you to who ever invited me to join(?  ) and as you guessed I'm a new member. I'm Australian, but I'm living in England (near London) and spent many years in the USA where I really started to get involved with this breed. I field-trialed by first Weim there, but he was an obedience and show dog before that. I am very much into developing a Dual-purpose (field/hunting and showing) foundation line in the UK, and have imported dogs from America to this end and hope to combine them with appropriate lines in the UK and/or Europe. I wouldn't be so bold as to say I have imported the 'BEST USA LINES'  as this would be unfair- there are many good breeders in the USA who have worked hard to develop their own type and lines, and it really depends on what you like  . Everyone likes their own dogs best! ;D The lines I have chosen to bring in are behind several of the No. 1 (Show) Weimaraners in the USA over the years (Smokey City), but they are also know for good temperaments, soundness and for hunting ability. Having lived in the USA for many years, I have enough familiarity with the lines to know which ones are the most suitable for me. I own 4 Weims at the moment, and having had this breed for a while now, I'm not interested in owning another. That's me! p.s. I don't have a lot of time to spend on the computer, as I'd rather spend my spare time with my dogs and much neglected husband, so I probably won't be very active. Apologies to start with! Kate Everett www.weimaraner.me.uk |
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Post by marjolein on May 23, 2005 21:35:13 GMT 1
Hi Kate and welcome to this forum!!! It's good reading about your goal to achieve a dual-purpose line. That's how I'd like to see it too!!!
I have 2 LH's and I both work and show them. I have a couple of fieldwork qualifications with one of them!
Hope you come by every now and then!
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Post by rivenwil on May 23, 2005 21:50:40 GMT 1
Thanks, I will try and drop by every now and again and see what's happening, but I don't want make a habit of surfing the net since I don't want to neglect my dogs. Of course, there is the house to clean too! |
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Post by Ilana on May 23, 2005 21:59:10 GMT 1
Hi Kate,
Nice to see you in this furom,welcome !!!
Ilana
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Post by rivenwil on May 23, 2005 22:09:56 GMT 1
Hi Ilana, I just got sent an invite to join, I didn't know this existed! I think it is a good way for everyone to keep a breast of what is happening in Weimaraners in Europe. However, I think it is ridiculous that there are people who have hidden identities and fake names. Why do they do this, I wonder? . |
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Post by Wetdog on May 23, 2005 22:19:02 GMT 1
HI KATE!!! Welcome to the board, I'm glad you could join us. I hope you like it here, stop by and leave us a little post telling us what you are up to whenever you have the time. We'll love hearing from you.
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Post by Ilana on May 23, 2005 22:57:36 GMT 1
Kate,
I do not know why peoples doing it but i can tell you that i am always used my name in all of the forums,
I would like to say to you and to your little new Am Imp.puppy "Flair "big congratiolation for the big winning at the WCA national spacilty !!!
I am very proud of you two and i think you have a very beutiful and healty dogs.
Ilana
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Post by Wetdog on May 24, 2005 0:06:11 GMT 1
I sent you the invitation Kate. In my case, I freely use my name with my screen name, but I've been around awhile and figured there were probably more people that know me as Wetdog than there are who know me by Fred---LOL---spread too far and wide to change now.
When I first got a computer and was setting everything up---I was asked to come up with a screen name for MSN Messenger or Yahoo Messenger or something. It was LATE in the middle of the night, very hot and humid, and my Fox Terrier, Aunt Pitty-Pat,(who was not the LEAST impressed with all the new computer stuff)had gone outside. So it was very quiet and still, and I'm scratching my head trying to think of something original and witty to use as a screen name, when it suddenly began to POUR rain, bang, a sudden deluge---and there came this pitiful "LET ME IN RIGHT NOW!!!" howl at the door. So, Aunt Pitty-Pat came in and got dried off, and I became Wetdog---and like I said, it is spread too far and wide to change now.
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Post by rivenwil on May 24, 2005 7:27:24 GMT 1
Hi Fred, and thank you. Now, you have the name Wetdog, but I take it your real name is Fred, and besides which you have a website with a photo of yourself, so it's not like you are trying to hide anything!. But it would be wonderful if people who are members were to explain who they are and what their real name is even if it is just the once (intro) for those of us new to the forum game and who don't know them. Kate I sent you the invitation Kate. In my case, I freely use my name with my screen name, but I've been around awhile and figured there were probably more people that know me as Wetdog than there are who know me by Fred---LOL---spread too far and wide to change now. When I first got a computer and was setting everything up---I was asked to come up with a screen name for MSN Messenger or Yahoo Messenger or something. It was LATE in the middle of the night, very hot and humid, and my Fox Terrier, Aunt Pitty-Pat,(who was not the LEAST impressed with all the new computer stuff)had gone outside. So it was very quiet and still, and I'm scratching my head trying to think of something original and witty to use as a screen name, when it suddenly began to POUR rain, bang, a sudden deluge---and there came this pitiful "LET ME IN RIGHT NOW!!!" howl at the door. So, Aunt Pitty-Pat came in and got dried off, and I became Wetdog---and like I said, it is spread too far and wide to change now. |
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Post by rivenwil on May 24, 2005 7:43:05 GMT 1
Thanks Ilana, Flair won her puppy class at the WCDCA Specialty show on the Tuesday during National Specialty week (18 puppy entries). She is very young yet and needs to grow up, but I was very happy to see her win that big class at her first show. You know I think the very highly of your dogs too and have for years. You have stuck to the lines you think are best for you and have not fallen for the latest fashion trend. I think it very commendable to stick to what you like no matter what, and from what I have seen I think you have been right in your choices. I loved your old dog Grey, he was my favourite and if I had known you well enough and had a good brood bitch back then I would have bred to him in an instant. You have gone to a lot of trouble to get some very good imported lines out there in Israel. Congratulations to you, you should be very proud of your achievements. Kate Kate, I do not know why peoples doing it but i can tell you that i am always used my name in all of the forums, I would like to say to you and to your little new Am Imp.puppy "Flair "big congratiolation for the big winning at the WCA national spacilty !!! I am very proud of you two and i think you have a very beutiful and healty dogs. Ilana |
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Post by Sylvia on May 24, 2005 9:10:28 GMT 1
Hi, Welcom here on the forum. Nice to see that you also work with your dogs |
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Post by rivenwil on May 24, 2005 13:09:32 GMT 1
I just have the one dog that I work now (Alabama Slammer), my old dog River died last year. I prefer the males to work rather than the bitches, they are far more consistent and have more stamina. I noticed some people get confused over what the term 'work' actually means. When I say work, I mean hunting/field trials, not the working tests they have in England(before the gun) or the working trials- that's more police dog work from what I have seen. My dog hunts and is shot over, that's what I mean. He does all the before and after the gun 'work'. In the US you would call this 'field work' and he will hopefully be competing in field trials rather than the working tests/trials because I really love to watch these dogs hunt and when you see a good one running, it is just the most thrilling sight. K Hi, Welcom here on the forum. Nice to see that you also work with your dogs |
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Post by Katja on May 24, 2005 22:59:02 GMT 1
HI Kate And BIG Concratulations about Allys workresults in USA!!! ;D It´s always good to know that it´s possible to find weims ho are beautiful and exellent hunting dogs! Sometimes i really scare that we have soon to different lines, for hunt and show.  |
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Post by rivenwil on May 25, 2005 0:21:03 GMT 1
There are already two different 'lines'(if this is the right word) for field and show in the USA, and they look very different to each other. The trouble is that often the show people will not breed to the field dogs because they are not as 'pretty', and the field people will not breed to the show dogs because they do not want to ruin the hunting instinct. But there are also many breeders like myself who are seriously trying to produce Dual (field and show) dogs. If you see a show champion that is competing in the field trials in the USA (not just the hunt tests), then that is a very good sign especially if they are placing or winning in Open stakes. There have been many Dual Champions in the USA over the years, and it is a very high achievement for a breeder. So it is not impossible to have both.  . But I think it takes much more hard work and some good luck, and I know in many European countries you have to have a dog be good in the field and in the show to get the Champion title! May be if it was like that every where, we would be maintaining the hunting ability in our dogs. |
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Post by Alkemist on May 25, 2005 20:08:01 GMT 1
Hi Kate and welcome from me and my 3 (soon to be 4) weims. I am also in the UK. Alkemist is my kennel name, and I go by the name of Nina. I live just outside of Liverpool, in the North West of England. I have bred a litter in the UK from my stud book qualified bitch and a lovely natured show champion from a leading UK Kennel. We have had a problem with Mast Cell Tumours in our litter (20% affected so far) and as a result of this I am importing a bitch from Poland - from true dual purpose Weimaraners, who are also extremely good on the eye, and have some of the best lines I could find. Anya (my puppy) is still in Poland at the moment, but will join us later in the year under the pet passport scheme. Anya is already showing some of her mothers fantastic traits . Nina |
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Post by rivenwil on May 25, 2005 20:31:30 GMT 1
Hi Nina, you know, I think I might have met you a long time ago at Crufts (the year that Harris Tweed won BOB when Caroline Alston judged). Could that be you? There was a bitch there called Crackling Rose, I don't know if that was you and your husband. May be it was another couple with a bitch of similar name(?). Kate Hi Kate and welcome from me and my 3 (soon to be 4) weims. I am also in the UK. Alkemist is my kennel name, and I go by the name of Nina. I live just outside of Liverpool, in the North West of England. I have bred a litter in the UK from my stud book qualified bitch and a lovely natured show champion from a leading UK Kennel. We have had a problem with Mast Cell Tumours in our litter (20% affected so far) and as a result of this I am importing a bitch from Poland - from true dual purpose Weimaraners, who are also extremely good on the eye, and have some of the best lines I could find. Anya (my puppy) is still in Poland at the moment, but will join us later in the year under the pet passport scheme. Anya is already showing some of her mothers fantastic traits . Nina |
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Post by Alkemist on May 25, 2005 20:52:11 GMT 1
Yes that was indeed us - I thought we were relatively anonymous ;D.
I think we got 1st in Junior bitch, Duncan was handling. That year we got 5 1st places in a row at least, and a RCC, so I think maybe we got noticed a little. It is Amber that we bred, and she was poorly so had only the 1 litter. I have her son, and he had MCT;s at 8 weeks, removed at 8 months. Hence the new import. We are going back to the showring with him to get a bit of practice in for when Anya comes.
Nina
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Post by Alkemist on May 25, 2005 20:54:27 GMT 1
Funnily enough - somebody wanted to buy Amber at Crufts that year - we never knew if they were joking or not. But she was lovely, just a shame things haven't gone right with her pups.
Nina
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Post by rivenwil on May 25, 2005 21:06:25 GMT 1
OH!! Yes! I DID talked with you ;D! She is a lovely bitch that one- she was on the smaller side and I think at the time you were worried that was going to be held against her in the show ring. I didn't think it would. I even remember that you were going to by a male Weim in at that time (and you had to get a run constructed outside). I was with some American friends and we all liked your bitch very much. She was very flashy! Are you sure of the inheritance of mast cells? May be it was just the combination of your bitch with the particular stud dog you used . Anyway, good luck with your new puppy . It will be fun to have some more fresh blood in this country won't it?  I'm playing it safe and going to lines I know really well from my time in the USA. But I would say that no matter how hard you try, with health issues there's always a chance something will crop up no matter how careful you are to bring in lines that you think are clear. That is the sad truth of it. Kate |
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Post by Alkemist on May 25, 2005 22:59:17 GMT 1
Kate as Amber only had 1 litter I haven't got anything to compare to re the MCT's, thanks for suggesting a theory though.The animal health trust are taking her DNA and Jensens into their study so fingers crossed they will get the funding.
Nina
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) and as you guessed I'm a new member. I'm Australian, but I'm living in England (near London) and spent many years in the USA where I really started to get involved with this breed. I field-trialed by first Weim there, but he was an obedience and show dog before that. I am very much into developing a Dual-purpose (field/hunting and showing) foundation line in the UK, and have imported dogs from America to this end and hope to combine them with appropriate lines in the UK and/or Europe. I wouldn't be so bold as to say I have imported the 'BEST USA LINES' 
