Post by arielskennels on Sept 11, 2005 14:51:53 GMT 1
I am unsure if anyone in the UK, Europe, Germany or the overseas countries that breed Weims know about what the AKC does and does not care or do about registering puppies.
I had a e-mail and in the conversation it came up that I sell my puppies on the AKC Limited Registration. I just want to clarify what this is and how the breeders here are using it and why.
First, I will start with the link to the AKC and tell you that I am copying this straight from their website.
www.akc.org/reg/limitedreg.cfm
"The decision as to whether or not a dog will be registered with limited registration is left solely to the litter owner(s). Limited registration is a tool with which the litter owner(s) can protect their breeding program. We would strongly recommend that if a dog is being sold with limited registration that the litter owner(s) make this condition clear to the potential dog buyer(s) so that there is no confusion about the terms under which the dog was purchased. If breeders provide a written bill of sale in addition to the registration application form, we would urge that the bill of sale include the fact that the dog is being sold with limited registration and that the buyer acknowledges in writing that the dog is being accepted with that condition."
It is illegal for the AKC to come out and say "Breeders can sell on limited registrations so that puppy mills and back yard breeders can not breed the pups to death on this registration".
Next. There is a major and growing problem here in the US with puppy mills, and back yard breeders that have a 'get rich' scheme by breeding their pets at 8 months old, not having thier structure or hips/elbows/eyes evaluated, breeding any old AKC regsitered dog to any other old AKC registered dog for the sole purpose of making their puppies worth more so that they can sell them for more and make more money. Here in the US, it is all about "how much can I get back from the purchase of this dog?" or "What is popular and I can make more money from?". People here do not care what they breed and it is up to the responsible breeders to 'govern' who and what is being bred for the future of the breed in this country. The AKC does not govern people in their breeding practices. Anyone is able to e-mail the AKC and ask them. This is why the WCA (The Weimaraner Club of America) has put into place a 'code of ethics' that the responsible breeders that want to improve the breed, breed good quality dogs, and sell the puppies to people that actually care about what happens to the dog and most of the time use the dog for what the developers intended them to do.
Now, I do not know a lot about the rules and regulations of the European registry, but I do know that they require the dog to be tested in the field or the show or both before registering puppies from a breeding. The AKC does not care. They are all about the money. Trust me and ask any breeder here that knows about the AKC. If anyone can tell me the specific requirements of the European registries to register any resulting puppies from any breeding are, I would appreciate it.
Here is the requirements of the AKC for them to register pups from a breeding:
“No dog or litter out of a dam under eight (8) months or over twelve (12) years of age at the time of mating, or by a sire under seven (7) months or over twelve (12) years of age at the time of mating, will be registered unless the application for registration shall be accompanied by an affidavit or evidence which shall prove the fact to the satisfaction of The American Kennel Club.”
This is all they are about! Here is the link to tell you:
www.akc.org/rules/procedures_registration_matters.cfm?page=10
Also, here: www.akc.org/rules/procedures_registration_matters.cfm?page=4
This is the 'suggestion' of the AKC to all breeders here in the US to sell all puppies on a written contract so that the buyer knows up front what they are purchasing. AKC does not govern any disputes. None what-so-ever unless there is a written contract.
I am just trying to inform those of you that are having doubts to selling pups to the US to responsible breeders here. Now, yes, I have to agree, there are too many breeders here that are out for a 'get rich' as they are just breeding to be breeding. The European breedings are highly respected and envied here.
I do my best to adhere strictly to the hunting issues and have my dogs examined for structure and hip/elbows/eyes before I breed.
Now, with all that said.. I hope that I did not offend or hurt anyone.
Melissa
I had a e-mail and in the conversation it came up that I sell my puppies on the AKC Limited Registration. I just want to clarify what this is and how the breeders here are using it and why.
First, I will start with the link to the AKC and tell you that I am copying this straight from their website.
www.akc.org/reg/limitedreg.cfm
"The decision as to whether or not a dog will be registered with limited registration is left solely to the litter owner(s). Limited registration is a tool with which the litter owner(s) can protect their breeding program. We would strongly recommend that if a dog is being sold with limited registration that the litter owner(s) make this condition clear to the potential dog buyer(s) so that there is no confusion about the terms under which the dog was purchased. If breeders provide a written bill of sale in addition to the registration application form, we would urge that the bill of sale include the fact that the dog is being sold with limited registration and that the buyer acknowledges in writing that the dog is being accepted with that condition."
It is illegal for the AKC to come out and say "Breeders can sell on limited registrations so that puppy mills and back yard breeders can not breed the pups to death on this registration".
Next. There is a major and growing problem here in the US with puppy mills, and back yard breeders that have a 'get rich' scheme by breeding their pets at 8 months old, not having thier structure or hips/elbows/eyes evaluated, breeding any old AKC regsitered dog to any other old AKC registered dog for the sole purpose of making their puppies worth more so that they can sell them for more and make more money. Here in the US, it is all about "how much can I get back from the purchase of this dog?" or "What is popular and I can make more money from?". People here do not care what they breed and it is up to the responsible breeders to 'govern' who and what is being bred for the future of the breed in this country. The AKC does not govern people in their breeding practices. Anyone is able to e-mail the AKC and ask them. This is why the WCA (The Weimaraner Club of America) has put into place a 'code of ethics' that the responsible breeders that want to improve the breed, breed good quality dogs, and sell the puppies to people that actually care about what happens to the dog and most of the time use the dog for what the developers intended them to do.
Now, I do not know a lot about the rules and regulations of the European registry, but I do know that they require the dog to be tested in the field or the show or both before registering puppies from a breeding. The AKC does not care. They are all about the money. Trust me and ask any breeder here that knows about the AKC. If anyone can tell me the specific requirements of the European registries to register any resulting puppies from any breeding are, I would appreciate it.
Here is the requirements of the AKC for them to register pups from a breeding:
“No dog or litter out of a dam under eight (8) months or over twelve (12) years of age at the time of mating, or by a sire under seven (7) months or over twelve (12) years of age at the time of mating, will be registered unless the application for registration shall be accompanied by an affidavit or evidence which shall prove the fact to the satisfaction of The American Kennel Club.”
This is all they are about! Here is the link to tell you:
www.akc.org/rules/procedures_registration_matters.cfm?page=10
Also, here: www.akc.org/rules/procedures_registration_matters.cfm?page=4
This is the 'suggestion' of the AKC to all breeders here in the US to sell all puppies on a written contract so that the buyer knows up front what they are purchasing. AKC does not govern any disputes. None what-so-ever unless there is a written contract.
I am just trying to inform those of you that are having doubts to selling pups to the US to responsible breeders here. Now, yes, I have to agree, there are too many breeders here that are out for a 'get rich' as they are just breeding to be breeding. The European breedings are highly respected and envied here.
I do my best to adhere strictly to the hunting issues and have my dogs examined for structure and hip/elbows/eyes before I breed.
Now, with all that said.. I hope that I did not offend or hurt anyone.
Melissa
