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Post by Rachel on Jan 22, 2008 20:44:34 GMT 1
I am not sure if this is the right board to post this in.
In the UK dogs have been docked for years, and now they are mostly undocked. A lot of show folk have been going on about tail carriage and how the dog should run around the ring with its tail outwards, held low. From what I can see most dogs like to run with the tail in the air, not right up and over, but in the air. What do you look for in other countries ? Tails down, up ? I have a girl with a long tail and when she is happy and confident and running about the beach her tail is up, but not up and over the back, its held very proudly up. When she is hunting in the undergrowth its up too, but then it drops lower in line with the body when she goes on point. I add I do not work my dogs but they do go on land where their are pheasants, and rabbits etc.
Rachel
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Post by weima on Jan 22, 2008 23:01:48 GMT 1
The problem with the tail carriage in the UK is that a lot of dogs have an incorrect tailset which means that they either have no slightly sloping croup where the tail is tickling their ears or they have too much sloping croup meaning the tail is carried too low.
A tail should be carried with confidence!
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Post by tasha on Jan 22, 2008 23:04:40 GMT 1
any one got any pictures of the correct tail set?? I've seen some dogs of late that look like salukis and whippets but i'm sure they are not supposed to look like that.
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Post by Cheryl on Jan 25, 2008 5:16:12 GMT 1
I saw a great pic by pic of weim standard, while showing correct and incorrect, on another board tonite, the y group (don't know if its proper to repost it???)
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Post by tasha on Jan 25, 2008 17:53:44 GMT 1
you could copy and paste the pictures if they don't mind??
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Post by Weims on Feb 6, 2008 12:23:36 GMT 1
My girlie has a long tail and I think she carries it OK. When standing she holds her tail so it follows the line of her back legs and flicks out at the end. When moving she holds it out from her "bum" with a flick up at the end but it doesnt curl over her back or anything... I will try and get a pic of her moving.. She does have a slightly sloping croup.
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Post by tasha on Feb 6, 2008 19:20:42 GMT 1
Is there anywhere that has an education on correct dogs anatomy for the weimaraner when comparing to the standard for showing purposes?? I've been sent a wonderful copy of the Australasian Weimaraner from the early 90s and its got a fabulous critique from the Nationals by Petri, absolutely wonderful certainly no messing around. He mentions some parts of the body that I'd like to see comparisons on. This would be a great educational topic for any of the club magasines so that people new to the breed and to showing could have a proper reference to use and learn from. The general pictures that I've seen do the usual front, back and movement position but very little else. Alternatively can anyone recommend a good canine anatomy book or course?  |
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Post by daniela on Feb 6, 2008 19:44:24 GMT 1
Is there anywhere that has an education on correct dogs anatomy for the weimaraner when comparing to the standard for showing purposes?? I've been sent a wonderful copy of the Australasian Weimaraner from the early 90s and its got a fabulous critique from the Nationals by Petri, absolutely wonderful certainly no messing around. He mentions some parts of the body that I'd like to see comparisons on. This would be a great educational topic for any of the club magasines so that people new to the breed and to showing could have a proper reference to use and learn from. The general pictures that I've seen do the usual front, back and movement position but very little else. Alternatively can anyone recommend a good canine anatomy book or course? Tom Horner's Take Them Around Please, is a great book. |
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Post by Cheryl on Feb 6, 2008 20:38:28 GMT 1
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Post by tasha on Feb 7, 2008 19:59:21 GMT 1
any idea where I can get a copy amazon seems to be selling it at £141... still if its a good book.
Also looking for a good book on grooming for the show ring
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Post by daniela on Feb 7, 2008 20:22:41 GMT 1
any idea where I can get a copy amazon seems to be selling it at £141... still if its a good book. Also looking for a good book on grooming for the show ring Blimey! Sadly, I am not sure where you can get a copy but I will ask around. £141........that's a new handbag!  |
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Post by tasha on Feb 7, 2008 22:25:53 GMT 1
sod the handbag thats a ticket to Europe and a few nights in a muddy field haha!
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Post by shekeik on Mar 8, 2008 3:30:23 GMT 1
How popular is the non tail docking in other countries? I have a young girl who does have a tail only because I am from Aus and it is now illegal to dock, but I have had a quick read through this and it seems other countries have non docked tails to...
Is this through law or choice??
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Post by greyghost on Mar 8, 2008 10:45:22 GMT 1
I think it is mostly by law in most countries. Here in the UK it became law last year but there are some docked litters around to people with a licence for guns and proven working stock.
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Post by belbracon on Mar 27, 2008 8:46:34 GMT 1
I think that the tail should be confident... what judges must remember is that there is a difference between tail set and tail carriage. You can see a correct tail set upon closer examination...
I also have an undocked bitch as I am in Australia where it is now illegal to dock, and in some places it is now illegal to show a docked dog without proper documentation (to prove it is imported or born before the law came into effect).
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