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Post by Muriel on Sept 22, 2007 17:54:51 GMT 1
Spotted elsewhere – the opportunity to ask the man all your raw feeding questions............ In case anyone is interested, this was posted on a Dane list: Hi all, we are very proud to announce that Ian Billinghurst will be guest speaker at our board from sep 20-24. We like to invite you to visit us and read what his answers to questions by Dutch and Belgian raw feeders. Reading can be done by everybody - if you would like to ask him something, you will have to register. The link to Dr. Billinghurst' s section is: www.barf- natuurlijk. nl/forum/ phpBB2/viewforum .php?f=66 Hope to see you there, Ignit Bekken. |
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Post by greyghost on Sept 22, 2007 21:42:56 GMT 1
Hmm I would like to find out more about bones and harmful effects. I have been discussing this today with a couple of people (Diana did a post on another forum about it). Quote from this site: www.secondchanceranch.org/training/raw_meat/myths.htmlEven Dr. Billinghurst, in his rebuttal to my website, admits there is risk. In his latest book he has a disclaimer that raw bones may be hazardous. Duh! Too bad he didn't mention it in his book when he recommended that you feed your dog raw bones! Don' get me wrong cos I feed BARF but I still cringe when I give a chicken wing and cross my fingers.  I remember a couple of years ago a special advisor/nutritionist had her dog at the vets with a blockage caused by a bone. Apparently she had had too much that day as her husband fed extra. Food for thought maybe. Whilst a dog can obviously digest bone it has to have a good constitution and the right amount of enzymes in order to aid digestion. |
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Post by anne on Sept 23, 2007 2:02:27 GMT 1
If you are uncomfortable with bones, then why don't you just grind them? I agree that a dog can choke on bones. I think dogs can choke on a lot of things.... I have found that the bigger the bones, the more the dog chews.
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Post by greyghost on Sept 23, 2007 9:00:03 GMT 1
I did try to grind them in my magimix but it is not powerful enough. I don't think it is worth buying a powerful machine just for chic wings when I can easily buy the frozen AMP foods locally.
I think, also, one needs to look at the quality of meats one is buying. Of course organic is best but who can afford that all the time. I worry about all the anti biotics and hormones pumped into meat these days.
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Post by Rachel on Sept 23, 2007 14:57:34 GMT 1
Is it worth looking at your local butchers and buying your dog meat as ours used to sell it for 30p a LB. Of course it looked pretty vile, but it had some offal in it and pieces of meat. But the meat was supposed to be organic.
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Post by greyghost on Sept 23, 2007 17:25:34 GMT 1
We are off our local butcher as it is because I am not sure where he gets his meat from. There is a fabulous one not far from us and it is pretty much free range but oh so expensive. I may have a word with him. I will be meeting his wife at a MacMillan morning this week so might put some feelers out.
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Post by Rachel on Sept 24, 2007 9:18:17 GMT 1
The only problem with some of the food butchers make up is they put a lot of offal in it, and fat. Sometimes this can play a Weimaraners stomach up. But just ask him what he puts in it, and the one we used to use the guy put in veggies that had gone out of date in the front of the shop such as cabbage and carrot which the dogs loved. One day I emptied the meat and their was a great piece of steak in the middle, I could not believe it. If its going to be a regular order he may come down in price. I know the butcher used to discount because I brought in bulk every couple of months. They would make it up along the way and put it in their freezer.
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Post by Wetdog on Mar 21, 2008 12:32:35 GMT 1
My two eat are fed kibble, but they eat raw food fairly often. (I just have the two German Shepherds since I lost Enka) Dixie, the older GSD, is my huntress supreme. She catches herself something to eat pretty frequently. Just yesterday, she caught she a rabbit---rabbit breakfast. Bones, skin, hair she ate the whole thing. Mine have never had any problem with chicken wings, rabbits or other things with smaller size bones.
The only time we've had any trouble with bones, it the large size cattle leg joints that they chew up and swallow. Or when they've had beef tails(that are mostly bone). Sometimes, they would throw them up later. It almost always seems to be a problem when they have a lot of bone, and not much else with it. I've never had any serious problems from them eating bones other than throwing up though. I never give them cooked bones however.
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Post by tasha on Mar 21, 2008 20:43:24 GMT 1
my butcher will put all the bones from chicken through a grinder for me but I have to preorder it and buy in bulk, he's very keen on feeding barf and gives me some wonderful beef bones for the dogs.
My vet was not too impressed about my feeding barf especially not to a pregnant bitch but I've been cutting off the meat off the bigger bones and using goats milk to supplement the calcium long with a little bio yogurt. I still feed one nature diet meal per day along with her veggies.
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