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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 13, 2006 13:18:11 GMT 1
Yesterday our girls took part in the obligatory Hunting Tests for dogs under 2 years. 18 pointing dogs entered the trials. Dogs could get there diploma with IIIrd, IInd or Ist (the highest) degree or finished without diploma. Special judges were judging such features of pointing dogs: - reaction on shot (it's the first competition and if a dog affraids of it he is disqualificated) - nose - pointing - passion - speed and style of searching the field - working in the water - cooperation with the hunter All breeds are compared together and here are full results: Diplomas with Ist degree1) Costa Brava Three Pomds Valley - German Longhaired Pointer, 100/100 points 2) Rio Bravo Fala Love'a "Boogie"- weimaraner sh. 95/100 points3) Mir z Radomskiego Parku - German Shorthaired Pointer, 92/100points 4) Grandel ze Snu Nemroda - German Shorthaired Pointer 91/100 points 5) Rio Grande Fala Love'a "Lulu" - weimaraner sh. 91/100 points6) Gabi Brutar - English Pointer, 91/100 points 7) Dreamer Misialinka - Gordon Setter - 90/100 points 8) Mila z Radomskiego Parku - German Shorthaired Pointer 89/100 points 9) Greydove At Fala Lovea "Lola"- weimaraner sh. 87/100 pointsDiplomas with IInd degree10) Zeus Ksiê¿na ¯agana - weimaraner sh. 87/100 points11) Midnight of Skyrocket - vizsla, 78/100 points Diplomas with IIIrd degree12) Bart Górka ¯apniowska - weimaraner sh. 80/100 points13) Nota Ecco Gwiazda Wschodu - weimaraner sh. 69/100 points Without diploma Mars z Radomskiego Parku - German Shorthaired Pointer We are very proud of our girls: Boogie, Lola and Boogie's sister-Lulu, as they all got the highest diplomas!!! ;D Boogie did proved that she is going to be a great hunter (like her parents and was placed 2nd before many GSPs, english pointer etc so we are realy very very happy of her result Here are some pics from the trials: Boogie with her prizes Me & Lola getting our diploma Kriss&Boogie with their prizes Kriss and Daniel with Lola, Boogie & Lulu:) That day our girls became offically "brood bitches" Hugs Magda
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Post by fenomena on Aug 13, 2006 14:34:30 GMT 1
Magda&Krzysztof and Magda&Daniel - once more BIG congrats from me and Cisa (who took her first level degree in April ;D:)) Like I said before - our girls are showing us every day that they are not just a "showgirls" .......they are real hunting weimaraners and I hope they will show in the future more and more and more... ;D Hugs , ania
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Post by Kobie on Aug 13, 2006 14:47:04 GMT 1
Well Magda, CONGRATULATIONS with those nice results !! I would like to know what the test contains conserning pointing. Can you explain a bit more ??
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Post by Wetdog on Aug 13, 2006 15:47:22 GMT 1
Congraltulations Magda, you have some wonderful girls. Thanks for telling us about it all, and the pictures are great.
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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 13, 2006 16:04:37 GMT 1
Thank you very much ;D:)
Dear Kobie
These trials are like normal Field Trials but less strict as it's for young dogs. So you go in the field with your dog and he needs to search for the birds. We were very lucky as all dogs met natural birds (mostly pheasants). When they met them they have to point them. The judge watch how it was done, how "hard" the point was and from such distance he pointed (bigger distance is better - means better nose). They judge also how far the dog searches, how fast, if he does it with passion etc.
There is also water competition where a dog have to swim (at least 5m) on command, without throwing anything on the water. If you throw something on the water (small stone) your dog gets less points. Retrieving from the water is not included (this competition is on the trials for adult dogs) but often it's much easier for a dog to lear retrieving from the water then swimming on command (without throwing anything).
Hugs Magda
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Post by huntingpoetry on Aug 13, 2006 16:28:13 GMT 1
.. don't these " two handsom HUNTERS", accompanied by these " three lovely Ladies[/font]" on the last photo, look fantastic...? Daniel, Huntingpoetry
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Post by Alkemist on Aug 13, 2006 17:15:32 GMT 1
YIPPEEEEEEE!!!!! Well done everyone - all the training and hard work has paid off. Looks like the litter have their mothers ability. And especially well done Lola, proving you can do it too! Nina, Duncan, and Anya PS photos are fab too - not sure about the hunters though Daniel - they look a little dodgy to me ;D
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Post by emma on Aug 14, 2006 9:28:08 GMT 1
Congratulations!!! And the picture are great!
We have something similar here in Finland for young dogs. I don´t know exactly everything about it yet because we are going next year with Aku.
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Post by Faust on Aug 14, 2006 10:48:19 GMT 1
Big congratulations!!! These are great results! Was interesting to read and watch the pics... We have in Croatia the same hunting exames. In three weeks Allegro hopefully goes on his first hunting exam. I hope I will be able to open nice topic, with good results and nice shots (well, have first to find the victim who will do the shots ;D), just like you did! But I don't have a good feeling about the weather conditions. You really have had nice warm sunny day... And great results! Bravo!!! One question - this exam for young dogs, does it have water work too??? Here in CRO, the first exam for young dogs is so called "IPO" = "Ispit Prirodjenih Osobina" = "exam of innate features" (inborn features), and it contains only the exam od how the dog works in the field: so only this: - reaction on shot (it's the first competition and if a dog affraids of it he is disqualificated) - nose - pointing - passion - speed and style of searching the field
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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 14, 2006 10:57:37 GMT 1
Thanx Kristina Yes we were very lucky with the weather as we were on the south of Poland and it was not too hot and no rain there! Could be only more windy The same day there was a big show on north and the weather was awful, rain etc... Good luck with Allegro on his hunt tests ! Magda
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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 14, 2006 11:20:47 GMT 1
Thank you Emma Kristina, In Poland willing to work in the water is also a natural ability. So they check it when a dog is under 2 years. The rules of these exams are quite complicated and if for example you dog doesn't want to enter the water at least till his elbows he si disqualified. To get max points for this competition he has to swim at least 5 m on command. You can also see that for example Lola has 87 points and diploma with Ist degree and next weimaraner has also 87 points but II degree. It is because for all competition a dog can get 0-4 points. But to get I degree he needs to receive at least: - 3 points for nose - 3 points for pointing - 3 points for passion - 2 points for speed and style of searching the field - 2 points working in the water - 3 points for cooperation with the hunter Then these points are multiplied by a specific ratio (the highest for point and nose) and if your dog gets max (4 points) for all competitions he receives 100/100 points Understanding these rules needs more explanations Magda
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Post by marjolein on Aug 14, 2006 11:29:36 GMT 1
Well done Magda!!!
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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 14, 2006 12:10:15 GMT 1
I've just received a fantastic news from Magda (Lulu&Byron owner)....a minute ago at the Hunting Trials in Biskupin Byron gained diploma with I degree too!!! He became a stud dog that way ;D He is the 4th puppy from Nasti&Nordic litter that had I degree from Hunting Trials......if Anya with Nina&Duncan leave here we would have 5 for sure Magda
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Post by fenomena on Aug 14, 2006 14:52:46 GMT 1
Magda....such a great news about Byron....it's really amazing job of You and Krzysztof as a breeders....BIG BIG congrats for such a beautiful dogs with so good huntings abilities ;D !!! and of course - Magda&Daniel....wow... really congratulations Ania
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Post by Faust on Aug 14, 2006 16:23:15 GMT 1
Thank you Magda for such thorough explanation. I hope to get some more explanations at Allegro's first hunting exam. On those first exames there are no points here in CRO, only the final conclusion: the dog has passed the IPO or the dog has not passed the IPO. I am speaking about IPO for retrievers now. I don't know if it's another way for pointing dogs (but will find out soon!). The only thing I am sure about is, that pointing dogs do not have to pass the exam on IPO, the first hunting exam. Which I find simply stupid, as they pointing dogs, especially continetal types are also expected to do waterwork...
Also big congrats to Byron and Magda!!! WOW!
So, this weims are not only beautiful, they know what their job is and they do it great!
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Post by Alkemist on Aug 14, 2006 16:44:09 GMT 1
Fantastic news about Byron too . And thanks for the confidence in us with Anya - for sure if Anya was in Europe she would have a lot more opportunities, and it's great that Magda and Kris let us have her, knowing that the litter had such potential. Nina and Duncan
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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 14, 2006 17:00:33 GMT 1
N&D, for us the most important thing is that Anya is happy and loved by you Kristina, Here in Poland, the most important feature of pointing dog is pointing. If he/she doesn't point they can not be bred. That's why even if a weim pass a tracking exams it's great but it doesn't give him any certificate to be a stud or brood bitch or a FCI International Champion title. He has to pass exams that include pointing. Magda
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Post by Faust on Aug 15, 2006 10:00:35 GMT 1
OMG, Magda, sorry, I didn't write the sentence correctly, sorry, sometimes I make mistakes when I write in a hurry. I wrote: "...the only thing I am sure about is, that pointing dogs do not have to pass the exam on IPO, the first hunting exam. Which I find simply stupid, as they pointing dogs, especially continetal types are also expected to do waterwork..."The thing I wanted to say is: At first hunting exam for young dogs (so called IPO) - we do not have waterwork testing for pointing dogs - we do not get the points, diplomas neither - so at the end of the exam the dog gets only a paper where it says: "passed" or "not passed"(it's for retrievers), I don't know for sure if it's for pointing dogs the same, but I think it is,. Also when I went to a field trial with Norman, I just got the note with points, but no thorough report on which disciplines he got which points This is what makes me so angry that I don't know on which diciplines my dog has earned points and on which diciplines he lost points, so that I could know on what things I have to work more to improve his hunting skills.... I hope you understood me now... Of course the main things at hunting exam that should be teseted are pointing and style, nose, searcching the ground etc.... but I would love that we in Croatia have the same as you have, also with waterwork and that we get such diplomas with full report of points for each discipline... We don't have it!
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Post by Fala Love'a on Aug 15, 2006 11:31:45 GMT 1
Kristina, my advice is that you should come to Poland ;D You would have here MANY hunting trials Allegro could take part in...field, water&land retrieving, searching for ducks, bloodtracking, scent-tracking.....anything you wish and all with points for each competition Hugs Magda
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Post by szarasfora on Aug 15, 2006 12:26:05 GMT 1
CONGRATULATIONS! I have taken a photo of Byron getting his diploma in Biskupin. But the camera wasn't mine this time, so it will take some time to have these photos in my comp. I will send it to Magda and to you for you home archives, when I have it.
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