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Post by Irena on Sept 28, 2005 10:39:24 GMT 1
I am just wondering, what is the situation like in our countries - do we NEED Weim Rescue at all? Who deals with unwanted Weims in your country, do they go through all breed shelters/organizations? Do you check the shelters out to see if they have Weims (like e.g. Americans do, or look them up on Petfinder etc)? Would they scan them for microchips, or would they contact your breed club if they had a Weim in their shelter?
Here in Latvia, we have so few Weims that there isn't much to rescue at all, but since we had a BYB here breed at least two litters with no pedigrees, I have no idea where the dogs went, but the breeder was supposedly very picky about new owners (so she said). Yet I wouldnt be surprised if there was one for adoption from a shelter, and I would have no way of knowing it, and maybe they wouldn't even KNOW it was a Weim they got. But hopefully they would call our Gundog breed club and the club would then contact me.
What is it like in your country?
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Post by marjolein on Sept 28, 2005 12:00:12 GMT 1
Well, it depends a bit on the breeder I think. In my contract I have a clausule, which says the dog has to come back to me, when it has to be rehomed. I really think it should be the responsibility of the breeder. And if it doesn't work out, I'd contact the rescue from our breed club. I think it's important that people know the breed, before they rehome a dog.
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Post by Alkemist on Sept 28, 2005 21:50:17 GMT 1
In the UK there are 2 Weim rescues - WCGB Rescue and Independent Weim Rescue. Both deal with LOTS of Weims, hundreds per year, not tens. In the UK it is so easy to breed Weims and make a lot of money at it. Basically you do not HAVE to show or work or healthcheck your Weim before you breed from it - the Kennel Club will still allow you to register the pups, whether they meet the breed standard or not. There are puppy farmers / back yard breeders who just breed purely to get as much money as they can. They provide no aftercare service, and do not care if you are a suitable owner - they just want your money.
I too have a clause, but it doesn't mean that the owners will stick to the bargain. Sometimes people do not want to admit that they failed their dogs and are letting them go, and so they do not go back to the breeder.
Nina and Jensen
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Post by Irena on Oct 4, 2005 11:24:09 GMT 1
I am just wondering if there are many puppymills that breed Weims too across Europe, and how big of a problem it currently is. And if there are no such problems in some countries, then how was that achieved. Just trying to understand what contribues to these problems and why in some countries everything seems to be fine. (Or we just don`t hear about their puppymills and dogs in need of rescuing?)
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Post by marjolein on Oct 4, 2005 12:09:52 GMT 1
It's a difficult issue Irena. Yes, the puppy mills contribute to this big time, but some breeders as well. There are breeders who only care for money and do everything to make as much as possible. They don't care who sells their pups, as long as they're sold.
And we all know Weims aren't the easiest dogs on this planet. You really have to know what you're getting into, before you should buy one.
If people buy from a puppy mill or a "bad" breeder, they don't get proper information of the breed and the chances are big things turn out badly for the pup.
When peeps call me for a pup, I always try to turn them off. I tell them loads of negative things of the breed . If they decide to go on, I think they're properly informed and know what they let themselves into. Of course you can never tell in advance, whether it will work out or not, but you could at least try.
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Post by Irena on Oct 4, 2005 12:18:25 GMT 1
Oh Mar, I totally understand all this, and I agree with you 100%. I guess I'm just wondering how come it seems to be SUCH a big issue in some countries, whereas we never hear about it from other countries? Is it like we just don't HEAR about this problem from, say, Latvia or Holland  , or does it mean that Weims are really not bred irresponsibly in those countries (by puppymills proper or bad breeders)? I'd just really like to know what exactly it is that keeps breeding under control in those successful countries. |
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Post by marjolein on Oct 4, 2005 13:02:04 GMT 1
Good question I think and well, I cannot really reply to it. We do have rescues every now and then, but the club always finds a new home for them.
I do find the occasional rescue on dodgy sites though.
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Post by Alkemist on Oct 4, 2005 18:50:20 GMT 1
On the flipside, I always wonder about countries that have low numbers of registered dogs. Does this mean that many are sold as unregistered?? I ask because I know through the rescues that I get involved in, and from talking to people who have discovered that they have bought a very expensive unregistered pup, that this is now a big problem in the UK. Even though we have such a lot of registered litters, there are many more unregistered.
Nina and Jensen
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