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Post by Irena on Nov 13, 2005 20:19:34 GMT 1
Daniela was asking on another thread:
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Just thought I'd start a new topic so it would be easier to find for others too.
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Post by Kobie on Nov 13, 2005 20:54:13 GMT 1
CAC is French for Certificat d'aptitude au Championnat, meaning, national competence certificate for the championship (of a certain country). Distributed by each country (FCI)
CACIB is French for Certificat d'Aptitude au Championnat International de Beauté
meaning, competence certificate for the championship of International beauty championship
International Champion (short CHIB) is awarded by the FCI
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Post by daniela on Nov 13, 2005 21:02:13 GMT 1
Thanks Korbie  |
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Post by marjolein on Nov 13, 2005 21:04:18 GMT 1
A CAC (Certificat d'Aptitude au Championat), is a national championship prize and a CACIB (Certificat d'Aptitude au Championat International de Beauté) is an international championship prize. To become a National champion in Holland for example you need 4 CAC's. To become international champion, you need 2 CACIB's and a qualification in a field trial for example.
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Post by marjolein on Nov 13, 2005 21:05:28 GMT 1
Oops, a little late...
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Post by daniela on Nov 13, 2005 22:11:14 GMT 1
When your dog wins a CACIB do you receive a certificate from the FCI and if so, how long does it normally take to come through?
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Post by daniela on Nov 13, 2005 22:13:05 GMT 1
What I am trying to get at, is my bitch won a CACIB in August but I have as yet, not received any confirmation from the FCI.
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Post by Irena on Nov 13, 2005 22:34:42 GMT 1
Daniela, I may be wrong, but I think that you don't need an additional confirmation for each CACIB from the FCI? I think at least here in Latvia all certificates are given right after your dog has been judged. Could of course be different with CACIB's, maybe they need additional confirmation.
I don't know if one CACIB is enough to become an Int Ch - I think it is 3 or 4, not sure, plus working trial(whatever that means in the country of the dog's residence).
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Post by marjolein on Nov 14, 2005 9:38:16 GMT 1
You're right Daniela, you should recieve a small card from the FCI. But, this takes months and months, so you have to be patient.
To become an International champion, you need at least 2 CACIB's, under 2 different judges in 2 different countries. There should be at least a year and a day between the first and the second CACIB. As we own hunting dogs, we need a qualification in the field too. This could be a field trial qualification, a blood tracking qualification or a HZP, VGP or FuW.
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Post by Irena on Nov 14, 2005 11:40:23 GMT 1
You're right Daniela, you should recieve a small card from the FCI. But, this takes months and months, so you have to be patient. Oh wow, I didn't know that!  We're too young yet to be awarded any CACIB's. ;D |
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Post by Fala Love'a on Nov 14, 2005 16:41:59 GMT 1
It usually takes about 6 months to get the CACIB paper from FCI. And it takes even longer (about 8 months) to get the diploma of International Champion from FCI. (At least it took so much time in our Nasti's case). In Poland the pointing dog has to pass the hunting trial - Field Trials or Versatile Hunting Trials (which include field work, tracking, retrieving from land and water etc.). If pointing dog has passed only tracking competition it do not give him International Champion title as these dogs must be examine in field (pointing). Magda  |
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Post by daniela on Nov 14, 2005 19:13:39 GMT 1
Hi Thanks for all the info. At least I know that it takes a long time to come through, I thought it may have been lost in the post. As for the FCI International Champion, the requirements are different here to gain this title and at this stage, I am very happy with just my CACIB! LOL  |
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Post by fialCo on Jun 22, 2006 15:05:36 GMT 1
***, so much of work:( In Lithuania we (Jurate and I) are just starting to search possibilities for field trials, because if even somebody does that with other dogs, they are hidding:)
The nearest countries to train and teach dogs are Poland and Latvia - only those countries give certificates for hunt and other trials.. It would be pity if I would be unable to train my doggy, - she would never become a CH. Only CACIB and CAC...
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Post by marjolein on Jun 22, 2006 22:08:09 GMT 1
My certificates, the big ones for the international championship arrived only 2 months after my doggies won their last CACIB. The big ones look really good I think, but too big for a map. They're still in the paperroll they came in.
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Post by marjolein on Jun 22, 2006 22:09:41 GMT 1
I've traveled the world too Fialco, to try to earn a thing or two. It really depends on how much you want it. You have to go to a foreign country as well for a CACIB......
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