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Post by bizzylizzy1uk on Apr 18, 2007 14:09:04 GMT 1
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Hi
new to group.
We are looking to own a blue female weimaraner puppy.
We don't want a back yard breeder.
We pay a deposit on a blue puppy a month ago but when the breeder rang us to say the pup had gone fluffy we then found out that there was a long and short haired mixture.
After talking to some weimaraner breeders/owners we followed their advice and ask her a few questions about the pup and her parents she took offense and refused to sell the puppy to us.
We were all very upset over this. The weimaraner group i had, had the advice off thought she was a bit shady and not telling us the whole truth about the pup and her parents.
We already have a weim and she is fantastic loyal friend and companion. We always planned to have 2 dogs.
We are not breeders to be honest we don't have the time for breeding. We are self employed business owners.
We run a showroom and before we employed someone to run that for us I used to take Scully with me to the shop she loved it and so did the customers!
I now have to be at home for deliveries so no dog of mine would be left on her own for long periods of time.
we have plenty of space, we have a huge garden which is secure.
We would house any puppy indoors with Scully.
We live along the coastline and 2 miles from a 7 mile long beach.
We make sure our Scully have between 1-2 hours exercise a day.
We don't want to travel abroad to get a puppy would prefer to purchase one from the UK.
We live in south wales UK
Hope you can help
Thanks
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Post by weima on Apr 18, 2007 17:06:37 GMT 1
There is only 1 breeder that I can think of who breeds Blue Weimaraners in the UK. If you PM me I'll give you her details.
You do know that Blue is NOT within our Breed Standard don't you?
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Post by anne on Apr 18, 2007 22:43:44 GMT 1
Bizzy,
I'm confused, I thought you told me that you did indeed get that puppy...
Anne
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Post by tasha on Apr 19, 2007 20:24:55 GMT 1
errr not to be funny we don't have any responsible breeders in the uk and they should not be fluffy even if we did the lines don't have any longhair to them and we don't as far as I am aware have a longhaired blue variety at all....
Can I ask who the breeder was that you went to???
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Post by bizzylizzy1uk on Apr 19, 2007 21:42:59 GMT 1
no i didnt get that puppy anne the breeder pulled out when we asked a few questions that we had been advised to ask.
We do however already have a 2 year old weim named Scully and you would love her she is a babe and so faithfull.
We took her to the old dock today (its not a dock anymore filled up with silt and sand etc) she was chasing the ducks and wagtails bless!
pointing and stalking great fun she even tried to catch a small fish that were jumping out of the sea.
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Post by bizzylizzy1uk on Apr 19, 2007 21:46:50 GMT 1
tasha the breeder told me when she noticed the fluffy fur and not before that somewhere back in the generations there was a longhaired breed with a shorthaired weim but as she didnt know the name of the dog she couldnt trace it!!!  She told me that the dog was imported from america. this was the dams second litter. she told me she had bred another breed think it was bulldogs but not sure now she also breeds horses. |
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Post by bizzylizzy1uk on Apr 19, 2007 21:47:49 GMT 1
breeders name is Gayle Silvester from england
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Post by daniela on Apr 19, 2007 22:24:50 GMT 1
errr not to be funny we don't have any responsible breeders in the uk and they should not be fluffy even if we did the lines don't have any longhair to them and we don't as far as I am aware have a longhaired blue variety at all.... Can I ask who the breeder was that you went to??? Sometimes the occasional puppy in a litter can have a fluffier textured coat compared to the others. We bred one a long time ago and when I saw the dog as adult, the coat was perfect - both the parents were s/h and not known l/h carriers. Perhaps fluffy is the wrong way to describe it, as it certainly isn't fluffy to the touch, more a case of the hair standing up, usually over the withers. I have seen this in a few litters, and all the dogs have turned out to have the correct coat. Has anyone else ever noticed this with puppies before? |
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Post by weima on Apr 20, 2007 14:44:12 GMT 1
I have had a litter that were so fluffy I didn't know whether to dock them or not! Both parents were S/H & aren't known for carrying the L/H gene so i was confused as to what to do. In the end I docked them but waited until they were 8 weeks old before I registered them & I aslo kept quiet for ages that I hadd them at all  |
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Post by weima on Apr 20, 2007 14:49:08 GMT 1
breeders name is Gayle Silvester from england This lady's breeding does carry the L/H gene as it goes back to Bromhund in Australia which have L/H dogs |
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Post by daniela on Apr 20, 2007 17:12:42 GMT 1
I have had a litter that were so fluffy I didn't know whether to dock them or not! Both parents were S/H & aren't known for carrying the L/H gene so i was confused as to what to do. In the end I docked them but waited until they were 8 weeks old before I registered them & I aslo kept quiet for ages that I hadd them at all LOL.....well I am glad I mentioned in then - you're not alone! |
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Post by tasha on Apr 21, 2007 23:14:59 GMT 1
I'd be interested to see where the blue comes into the line if its based on Australian lines...
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Post by syrinx on Apr 22, 2007 4:09:14 GMT 1
Just remember the mode of inheritance. Basically every dog in Australia (imports and progeny of newer imports excluded) has LH in it from Nani's Helga For Bromhund, but that does not mean they will 'throw' LHs out of the blue! (So to speak!) There cannot be throwbacks, the parents have to be carriers. And at least one of their parents, and so on. Many of the top winners of the US have been LHCs, such as Standing Ovation.
On the question of the coats, I find a good indication of LHCs in adults is the coat over the whithers and the chest/neck area. It is a little plusher there. Although I so have a LHC from a carrier and a LH, and she has a coat that looks like a non-carrier. Go figure.
Wendy
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Post by weima on Apr 22, 2007 10:26:31 GMT 1
I'd be interested to see where the blue comes into the line if its based on Australian lines... Sorry Tash, I don't know if the litters I am thinking of are/carry blue but they certainly are from L/H dogs.
Bizzy hasn't been very clear on whether the litter she was supposed to be getting a pup from was blue, although she is looking for one now, I just read it to mean that she wasn't getting the pup because the breeder said they weren't S/H. |
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Post by bizzylizzy1uk on Apr 22, 2007 20:03:50 GMT 1
The pup we were to have was a blue well i say blue she was almost black.
We still want a blue female pup, short haired.
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Post by syrinx on Apr 29, 2007 15:45:20 GMT 1
I thought I remember from some of the American lists, that Blues were not that dark as babies, I would be asking questions myself.... Also as Blues are outside of the standard of any country, a breeder breeding them would be outside of any agreed code of ethics of any club, and so it would be arguable that they would, therefore, be a BYB. If not now, they will be, as I would think that other ethical breeders staying within the code of ethics, would probably not let their dogs be used at stud by them, and so their genetic options as far as good lines go, would be severely diminished.
Wendy
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Post by weima on Apr 29, 2007 16:12:39 GMT 1
Also as Blues are outside of the standard of any country, a breeder breeding them would be outside of any agreed code of ethics of any club, The breeders of Blue Weimaraners in the UK are not members of any of the breed clubs anyway. If they were, they would only get chucked out & then still breed without any help from the clubs. |
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