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Post by weims4bethany on Mar 8, 2009 23:55:32 GMT 1
Hi Folks, For anyone interested, I've put a new article on my website titled, "In Conversation With...", March, 2009. Go to the "DNA NEWS" page at: www.foresterweimaraners.com |
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Post by tasha on Mar 11, 2009 10:36:52 GMT 1
very interesting, do you think there will be a good uptake from breeders to supply DNA samples from other countries?? I would certainly be interested in submitting samples from my dogs along with health histories if it is required. A very interesting project. The UK kennel club are now looking to improve the uptake of health tests in the UK hence my interest in your article on mismarkings however these things do have to be open to all otherwise uptake in other countries will be limited. Its hard to encourage people to take up new tests when there is disagreement within in the breed as to who can use the tests or participate in furthering them. Your site is locked so you can't copy and paste the links to read the letters. Are you ok to share this with other countries like the UK or would you rather it was kept personal and not cross posted?  |
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Post by marjolein on Mar 11, 2009 16:54:05 GMT 1
My dogs DNA is stored there.
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Post by weims4bethany on Mar 11, 2009 20:15:33 GMT 1
<<The UK kennel club are now looking to improve the uptake of health tests in the UK hence my interest in your article on mismarkings however these things do have to be open to all otherwise uptake in other countries will be limited. Its hard to encourage people to take up new tests when there is disagreement within in the breed as to who can use the tests or participate in furthering them.>>I'm still at a loss as to how you ever came to this conclusion and continue to bring it up. You still don't understand the use/purpose of these DNA tests. Coat, colour and markings are not health tests. They are breeder tools. If you want to continue to waste your money by testing affected dogs, and convincing others do so needlessly as you've done before, so be it. Most DNA test companies will be happy to take your money for whatever test they offer. However, the Canadian Company, Healthgene, is specific to breeders of purebred dogs and their breed standards, so they won't be taking your money to test affected dogs, there is no point. The Healthgene Co. contact information Link for the K B/K B Test is in my article. The direct Link to the Company's test request page is in my article, no one even has to search their site. The name/number of that test is in my article. It's the same format in my DNA test for coat length articles for that Company. There is nothing preventing anyone, anywhere from testing potential clears or carriers by any of the Companies offering the proven tests for Weimaraners. I am beginning to worry what you are telling people owners/breeders/Clubs. Maybe someone else representing the UK or your Club should be contacting me. <<Your site is locked so you can't copy and paste the links to read the letters.>> Type it into your browser for now. I lost my dear friend/webmaster in a tragic accident last year. I am struggling to learn to update my site and add pages. I will see if I can fix that one part if it is troublesome. Yes of course the articles are locked so people no longer steal from my site, take excerpts out of context or plagiarize, etc. Are you ok to share this with other countries like the UK or would you rather it was kept personal and not cross posted? You've made that assertion before, and I don't deserve that. Since I started these various projects, I'm the one that does the work to get the tests proven for this breed, writes the articles and offers the new information to anyone anywhere. I personally initiate by posting a link on different continents/Forums direct to the articles. You know I have, as you are a member of each of the Forums I posted this to. Anyone can do the same if there are other Forums they wish to post the link on. Nothing is being 'kept personal'. If I wanted the information for myself alone, I wouldn't put it on a Website, nor post Links to it. I have a standing offer of Free, copyright licensed, numbered articles for any Club newsletter/ magazine anywhere. It's on the DNA Articles / Information page. Once inside the link, there are a few other options if anyone has a different use of the article would like to ask for (such as permission to translate). I don't subscribe to any of the 'at cost' options. A Link to my website information page is freely available. Free, licensed articles are available. So please, it is time for you to stop making such assertions. Bethany Canada www.foresterweimaraners.com
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Post by tasha on Mar 16, 2009 12:44:42 GMT 1
Bethany you are taking my comments terribly personally such a pity as they are not meant to be. I do not like to tread on toes so want to make sure that it is ok to cross post this information as the last post you made which was on mismarkings was not very well accepted and I have no wish to make this same mistake again.
I am more than aware of what DNA tests are for you do me no credit by stating that I don't but I think you should understand that some people especially with new technologies like to be able to show that these things are accurate... its not a waste to test one dog with and one dog without the features of the test for that purpose if it acts to persuade people to undertake the tests in future, sadly some people do like to be able to recognise the dogs being used and most people in the UK are not aware of lines of dogs in say europe or the US/Canada.
So sorry you lost your friend websites are not the easiest things, I typed it out and the letters are great. If its ok I'll cross post to a couple of other sites where people are interested in DNA.
If you would be happy to have this article or to write an article for the Club Magasine I can put you in touch with our editor I am sure it will be of great interest. A write up of the mismarkings would also I am sure be more than welcomed.
Mar did you do yours with the Dutch Club?? Maybe next time I come over I can book to have the blood taken for my three and graf???
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Post by Rachel on Mar 16, 2009 14:55:39 GMT 1
I see no one else has posted on this one. It does interest all breeders to read these posts. So I would like to ask that although you clearly Bethany wrote with a bit of hell fire behind your fingers when you replied to Tasha, lets keep this all friendly please, as everything Weimaraner is of interest. We all enjoy reading your posts  So please do keep us up to date with news. Rachel |
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Post by marjolein on Mar 16, 2009 17:57:19 GMT 1
I didn't do mine with the Dutch Club Tasha. They've hired a commercial company for the storage of the DNA and I've heard some very bad news about them.
That's why I sent the blood to the Ruhr University in Germany.
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Post by tasha on Mar 17, 2009 12:05:00 GMT 1
ohhh thats a pity, was it easy to send off the bloods to Germany?? Not sure what the delay would be from here? Should be back in Holland in September/October hopefully with the pupsters on their first jolly should be a laugh. R was so right about George haha! He's a sod!!
Anna is back in Amsterdam too. How you getting on with your gun hunt any luck?? There are some lovely ones here did you decide on the 20 or the 12 bore???
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Post by marjolein on Mar 18, 2009 7:11:01 GMT 1
It's easy to send the blood to Germany, if you send it either from Germany or with express mail. You draw blood one day and it should be in the lab the next. So I don't think it's very easy if you're in the UK.
I still haven't decided on the gun yet. I really fell in love with the browning citori 625 feather. There is not much difference between the 12 and 20 bore. A friend of mine used a 20 bore last weekend and she was very enthusiastic about it.
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