Post by syrinx on Dec 30, 2005 9:17:47 GMT 1
Well, this finding has been used here as docking was the CAUSE of the incontinence. If the same nerves went to the same place, that might be possible. Like they tell pregnant women not to take laxatives. The nerves to the bowl and the uterus are too closely 'related', if you like' and it can set off premature labour. In Weimaraner Ways, it says that the white hair under the tail (right where the dock happens) is caused by docking shock, They saw the hair, where it was, put two and two together, and got 9. As anyone with an undocked Wei or a longhair can tell you, you still get white hair. It is a breed characteristic, like the kink in the tail of a Siamese cat. They even have a story to explain that kink. And the anti dog lobby used this as arguement to help get docking banned, too.
Having a boarding kennel, out of hundreds of animals, I have seen two truly incontinent animals - that is, leaking with no control. One was an undocked Rottweiler, the other was a long tailed cat. The other variables need to be looked at - extra weight can cause it due to pressure on the bladder, kidney and UT disease or infection, birth defects, cancer, etc. The Rottie was leaking at 6 weeks of age, turned out to have one normal kidney and one huge one, that when removed, was two small ones in an outer cover. She has leaked for 10 years. Pet shop puppy, HD, VERY crooked front legs, food alergies. The cat had something nasty and died, undiagnosed. Medium dogs are in need of a great deal of excercise, and (here at least) don't usually get what they need. People often underestimate it. But they get LOTS of food! We presently have here a Labrador that could be used as a coffee table. Statistics depend on the size of the sample, wether it is really random, lots of things.
There is a quote from Disraeli (probably incorrect spelling). He said there were lies, damn lies and statistics. Meaning that findings can be manipulated to show what the person wants to see. They need to look at causes, not just numbers.
Wendy
Having a boarding kennel, out of hundreds of animals, I have seen two truly incontinent animals - that is, leaking with no control. One was an undocked Rottweiler, the other was a long tailed cat. The other variables need to be looked at - extra weight can cause it due to pressure on the bladder, kidney and UT disease or infection, birth defects, cancer, etc. The Rottie was leaking at 6 weeks of age, turned out to have one normal kidney and one huge one, that when removed, was two small ones in an outer cover. She has leaked for 10 years. Pet shop puppy, HD, VERY crooked front legs, food alergies. The cat had something nasty and died, undiagnosed. Medium dogs are in need of a great deal of excercise, and (here at least) don't usually get what they need. People often underestimate it. But they get LOTS of food! We presently have here a Labrador that could be used as a coffee table. Statistics depend on the size of the sample, wether it is really random, lots of things.
There is a quote from Disraeli (probably incorrect spelling). He said there were lies, damn lies and statistics. Meaning that findings can be manipulated to show what the person wants to see. They need to look at causes, not just numbers.
Wendy