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Post by lisaandstorm on Jun 11, 2006 12:03:00 GMT 1
[img src="[/img] "]Hi, thanks for all the hellos i got. Storm is now 6 months old, goes to dog training and is quick to pick up on new commands. The major prblem I have is that he hates men, and some women, and barks quite aggressively at them. He had lots of major ops from the age of 8 weeks, due to a bone tumour. The vet was male, and our dog behaviourlst recons this is why he hates men. Im not so convinced as he is now getting aggressive towards some other dogs. The trainer has suggested rewarding good, and as he is now on a haltie, tugging hard on his lead and shouting 'no' when he gets mean. some days are better than others. Please, please, please, has anyone got any advice out there? Apart from that he is a wonderful loving dog, whom I want to totally enjoy. And he's such a cutie!!!
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Post by groovydreamyfab on Jun 11, 2006 22:00:13 GMT 1
Are you saying that he's not barking aggressively at all strangers, but just some? mostly men? Some dogs just like to bark a lot. That's the case with my Jack. If he's on his turf, it's more so. Socializing and maturity helped with this. Maybe someone will have some advice about some training that may help. Cassandra and the weim3pack
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Post by Wetdog on Jun 11, 2006 22:16:13 GMT 1
Get rid of the Halti and use a chain slip training collar.
If he isn't already, get him nuetered.
Go to my website--read the article "Training, Getting Started" in the training section. Do what it tells you. YOU need the training and need to do the course completely through to learn how to train and have an alpha attitude even more than he needs the training(which he does). Being alpha has NOTHING to do with being harsh or cruel, but there ARE certain things that you do that enable you to get what you want from him without being cruel, and maintaining your own composure is a very key element to training. You will learn as much and more than he will.
Forget the behaviorist--it doesn't matter in the least what Storm "thinks"(a misnomer--dogs don't "think" in human terms) Storm is not a human, he is a dog, and YOU are the human. He needs to behave the way dogs need to behave---it is not realistic to expect you and the entire world to change behavior to suit him--HE needs to change behavior to suit what your needs(and the rest of the world)are.
Socialize, Socialize, Socialize!!!!! Introduce him in a controlled way to as many new and varied situations as you can, and KEEP AT IT until he is so used to it that nothing phases him.
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Post by Sylvia on Jun 13, 2006 11:16:42 GMT 1
The trainer has suggested rewarding good, and as he is now on a haltie, tugging hard on his lead and shouting 'no' when he gets mean. some days are better than others. Rewarding good is always good. Do you ahve any idea what is the reason for this behaviour? Is he unsure of himself or not? We all can say correct or whatever, but if you do not know the reason for this behaviour correcting might be not a good advise. He is such a young boy that I really don't understand why he acts like this. Have you ever tried to keep the attention of him on you? Not first pulling the leash but first look if you can get his attention. That when he has attention for you give him a treath or something? Then the anxiety can not be increased. Mostly pulling the leash does increase the anxiety. And especially makes it worser when the dog is unsure of himself.
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Post by weimaranermama on Jun 13, 2006 13:15:25 GMT 1
I think, it is very important, that you know first one of the two things: is Storm an Alpha? ?Or is he unsure? ?? When he is an Alpha, I agree with Wetdog, and follow his advice, but if he is unsure, you have to socialise him, untill everything is normal for him. Ask men to give him a threat of crowl him, so he can see that men are normal people and don't hurt him. Go to places were many people are and let the peaple look at him and be kind to him. How was he as a puppy, when he came in your house? ? How was he acting? Gr. Ina
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Post by lisaandstorm on Jun 20, 2006 21:09:45 GMT 1
he loved people until he had a series of major operations. he is worse since my last message and is getting aggressive towards other dogs. i exersise him for 2 hours a day and i believe that he thinks i am the boss. he does everything i ask until someone is around
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Post by marjolein on Jun 21, 2006 8:00:49 GMT 1
i believe that he thinks i am the boss. he does everything i ask until someone is around This proves you're not, sorry to say so. If I where you, I would seek the help of a behaviourist ASAP or this will escalate. This is NOT normal behaviour for a pup his age. Keep us updated!!
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Post by tasha on Jun 29, 2006 12:04:33 GMT 1
not too be rude if all this has happened after a series of operations have you checked to make sure he is back to full health and not in any pain??? I know that some dogs aggression issues have been down to some serious health conditions that were left undiagnosed. Its worth trying anyway.
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Post by mike on Jun 30, 2006 12:36:25 GMT 1
Why are you exercising a 6 month old pup for 2 hours a day??? He really shouldn't need much more than half an hour a day (5 minutes per month)
Please tell me your not tugging hard on a lead conneced to his his halti, if you are stop. You control a dogs head with a halti and you have to be gentle with them because you can do an awful lot of damage to a dogs neck by loading it inappropriately (especially a young dog which will have weak neck muscles)
Does your dog truly understand no? Are you getting tense around other dogs? Part of the problem with shouting "no" is that the dog is more likely to think you are joing in rather than trying to get it to stop. As far as the dog is probably concerned a) it's on some sort of lead and defenceless b) mum is getting stressed, why? Must be that dog c) mum's shouting to, must have been that dog d)oh look dog's gone away, mum not stressed, result! I am not saying the dog is really thinking that but try to stay calm and if you need to move the dog away when exhibiting inappropriate behaviour try to keep calm and move the dog away without shouting at it. (Easier said than done I know, I have seen a significant reduction in dog / dog aggression with my boy by relaxing and not reacting)
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Post by Sylvia on Jun 30, 2006 14:00:50 GMT 1
Why are you exercising a 6 month old pup for 2 hours a day??? He really shouldn't need much more than half an hour a day (5 minutes per month) 2 hours a day is possible. The 5 minute rule is per walk not for the whole day. If he gets 4 times a day a walk of 30 minutes I think that is good
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Post by mike on Jun 30, 2006 14:18:38 GMT 1
Depends what she means by exercise Sylvia, 2 hours a day of forced exercise i.e. lead walking is way too much in my opinion. If the pup has the opportunity to stop if it's getting tired (i.e. off lead walk) then maybe it's not to much, but it's still much more than I would give a young pup. If your trying to "tire" a pup out I would spend more time training than exercising...
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Post by Sylvia on Jun 30, 2006 14:24:37 GMT 1
Well I never look at the 5 minutes rules. I walked my dogs as puppies also for hours. And when I see they get tired I stopped. I never had a problem with HD or something. I think as well that what is not "in" will not come "out". So if there aren't and signs of Hipsdysplasia there never will come hipsdysplasia, even not when you walk a lot with a puppy.
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Post by Wetdog on Jun 30, 2006 16:52:31 GMT 1
If he really worries you, you could put a muzzle on him, that way no one would get bit. And you could still take him out and socialize him. Good luck, I hope that works for you.
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Post by daniela on Jul 1, 2006 19:00:14 GMT 1
............but hip dysplasia is a multi factorial condition which means it's not just down to genetics.
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Post by Sylvia on Jul 1, 2006 19:27:12 GMT 1
............but hip dysplasia is a multi factorial condition which means it's not just down to genetics. IMO the walks don't have any influence on that. Otherwise our Vidar has to have very bad hips with his 2 hours walks with 8 weeks. There are IMO only a few things which can have maybe an influence on it. And that are medicins on young age which have influence on the bone developing / grow and missing of some vitamins on young age which are important for the growing / developing. And if this is why a dog got HD he never will give it further in a next generation. But IMO not the walks! And that is where we talk about right now.
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