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Post by marjolein on Jan 13, 2006 23:00:11 GMT 1
Never ever seen a weim get Excellent when he was worthed..... I nearly got one Kobie, and the CACT, if I hadn't made that stupid mistake..... |
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Post by marjolein on Jan 13, 2006 23:00:27 GMT 1
Without knowing the judge btw.
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Post by chiendog on Jan 14, 2006 0:40:59 GMT 1
I am sure that the great american golfer Tiger Woods' father did all he could to nuture Tiger's instincts. But Tiger HAS the instincts to work with. As they say "you cannot polish a turd".
And I think this really is the heart of the matter. Far too many weims simply lack the most basic instinct to be a good hunting dog: DRIVE.
A hunting dog simply must be obsessed with finding game. He must be physically able to hunt hard of course but if he lacks the true DESIRE to find and point and retrieve game, no amount of training will help.
In my experience, non-hunters simply do not understand what hunting desire is. If they did, they would be hunters themselves. They would know what that fire in the belly to find and put meat on the table is all about.
Hunters on the other hand know all about desire and the overwhelming passion to hunt. What else would explain getting up at 4 a.m. on a cold rainy day to head to the field where you may walk for hours without even seeing game? It is an compulsion, deep seated need.... something not easy to explain.
To the non-hunter, any dog that runs around or chases a squirrel in the park must seem to be loaded with hunting instinct. To a hunter however, there needs to be a lot more. A good hunting dog will hunt hard for hours even if no game is found. He will never give up. A good hunting dog is just as keen on taking to the field as the hunter.
Let's face it, the majority of weimaraner breeders are non hunters. That is a fact. So even if they intend to breed hunting dogs chances are they do not know what to look for or select for. So they try selecting for ideal shoulders or heads or backs all the while ignoring the most important aspect: the WILL TO HUNT.
Do you really think that Tiger Woods' shoulder or back or good looks makes him the great golfer that he is? They may help, but in my mind, what makes him great is his enormous desire and will to win combined with great genetic athletism.
If you, or for that matter anyone else you know, had a hundred years of training, would you even come close to Tiger Woods on the golf course?
And if you wanted to start a line of great golfers would you start with the good looking fellow down the lane or with Tiger Woods as your chosen stud?
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Post by Kobie on Jan 14, 2006 7:49:20 GMT 1
Without knowing the judge btw. LOL  |
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Post by Kobie on Jan 14, 2006 7:50:16 GMT 1
[/quote] I nearly got one Kobie, and the CACT, if I hadn't made that stupid mistake.....[/quote][/color] Really  ?? What happened |
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Post by marjolein on Jan 14, 2006 20:44:21 GMT 1
Well, Daan was still young (in her head) when this happened. She'd done a perfect run. Not a single mistake. She covered loads and loads of field, ran at a high speed and showed hunting ability (not just running a parcours, but really showing she was using her nose). At the end of the field, she made this perfect point. She flushed on command and was steady when the shot was fired. The bird was not shot though, it was female. I wanted to call her back, but she was already on point again. Again everything was perfect and she was steady again. But again a female bird, so no retrieve. And that was difficult for her. Two shots already and nothing to retrieve. She was too young to understand this. Anyway, I put her on the lead again and slowly walked back to the judge. I was over the moon, I knew we hadn't made a single mistake. Unfortunately, our run wasn't completed yet, had another 5 min's to go I think. So I let her off lead again and made the stupest mistake ever. I knew I was over-excited and I knew she sensed that. I knew she was excited too, by the sound of the guns and not being able to retrieve yet. And what I knew too, that shortly before I let her off, a hare just went into "our" field. I made the decision to let her run as wide as possible again, because I was going for the highest qualification possible. I decide to take the risk things could go wrong. And things went wrong. If I'd called her back before she scented that bl**dy hare, it wouldn't have gone wrong. Unfortunately I took the risk and let her go. She started to show us Weims are versatile dogs and can track as well. I called her back, but to no avail. She'd had enough of it and decided it was time for disobedience........... I was fuming, you have no idea, LOL!! I saw my excellent slip out of my hands without being able to do something about it. And this is the worst feeling ever. Thank goodness I got her back in time before the judge disqualified me.
At the end of the day, the judge commented on us of course. He said it was the best run he'd seen in ages and that the fact that it went wrong was partly due to the owner, partly to the fact that she was still quite young. He also said that he actually wanted to award us with a CQN (which means a dog was running at CACT level, but that that couldn't be awarded due to a disqualifying mistake). Unfortunately someone from the organisation convinced the judge it was better for me to get a qualification instead of a CQN and that's why it all ended with a first good. I still regret this. I'd rather had the CQN. Says more about her run than a first good. Anyway, you can only learn from your mistakes and that's what I did. Won't let her pass the track of a hare anymore in a situation like this, if I can prevent it.
Ah, maybe she's better next season, she's a year older and wiser than. Fingers crossed!!!!
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Post by Kobie on Jan 14, 2006 20:52:56 GMT 1
OMG, what bad luck you had !!!
I really have to say the qualification 'Good' sounds poorly.....
I would also like to see the CQN in this case, or even a 'Very good' in case of the qualification .....
And I need to say this once, Marjolein....
Your longhair is the best LH I have ever seen in the fields....
If I would consider a LH, I would recommand your upcomming litter....
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Post by marjolein on Jan 14, 2006 22:31:56 GMT 1
Thanx girlie!!!! You made me blush!
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Post by mojo on May 2, 2006 12:32:06 GMT 1
To answer to Kobie,
In France, to become Field Champion, (for each championship, spring, autumn) you need:
For a female : 3 x RCACT (2 in open breed and 1 in special of breed)
For a male: 4 x CACT ................ or 3 CACT + 2 RCACT. (only 1 in special of breed).
Yes winning is possible, my little Vini, aged of 18 month won 2 RCACT in his 5 first trials.
OK, it's an US import ( son of AFC-NFC-NAFC-FC - GRAU GEIST LIL'S GUST V.WESTEND).
Christophe
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Post by mojo on May 3, 2006 12:38:13 GMT 1
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