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Post by arielskennels on Sept 14, 2005 4:30:10 GMT 1
OK, I am here in the US and it is not that often that we can get a chance to allow the dog to track unless we work them in the NAVHDA tests. Do the other countries kill the furbearing animal before the dog is allowed to track it (as in the NAVHDA training) or are the dogs allowed to kill the fur bearing animal themselves?
Another question.. Some breeders here in the US use their Weims to hunt large game such as bears, mountain lions etc. and I was wondering if the overseas breeders do the same there?
Thanks in advance!
Melissa
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Post by marjolein on Sept 14, 2005 14:13:07 GMT 1
It depends on what kind of game is shot. If it's boar, it can be too difficult for a dog the size of a Weim and they usually use Dachshund for this job.
For a roe-track, you can use a Weim and the Weim is supposed to track the roe and grab it by the throat to keep it at it's place. Then the hunter can finish the job.
I've been on one real track and it was sooooo exciting. The roe was already dead at the end ofthe track, but my dog did grab it at the throat. It's so fantastic to see the dogs natural abilities expressed without training for it.
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Post by arielskennels on Sept 30, 2005 7:01:33 GMT 1
Thanks Marjolein!
Although, I am unsure of what a 'roe' is.. is it is rabbit or fox type animal?
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Post by Irena on Sept 30, 2005 8:58:04 GMT 1
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Post by smokeybear on Sept 30, 2005 10:07:38 GMT 1
Hi Melissa Roe is a type of deer.
Generally speaking Weimaraners were bred to track wounded deer ie if the hunstman did not kill them outright. They had to then remain by the animal if it was dead and speak (totverbellen) to indicate to the hunter its whereabouts so that the deer could be recovered.
In the UK very little deer stalking is done and often dogs are not used. There are one or two HPRs including Weims that do however. But the season is short, the opportunites are few and far between time wise and geographically wise.
In order to satisfy tracking abilities in the UK we have a sport called Working Trials which consists of 3 sections, one of which is tracking and the dogs follow a track of circa 1/2 mile on terrain which may vary from rolled plough, stubble, young crop or grass etc. The age of the track varies according to the stake, from 1/2 hour old to 3 hours old and the number of "legs" can be up to 30. The dog must recover small articles on the way to qualify.
The track has no scent on it apart from that remaining from crushed vegetation/disturbed earth and any residual sent from the tracklayer which will vary according to weather etc.
My Weimaraner bitch is one of the top tracking dogs in the UK (all breeds).
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Post by arielskennels on Sept 30, 2005 16:35:20 GMT 1
THANKS! I liked the picture from Marjolien! It looks more like a small whitetail with more fur..
& THANKS! Smokeybear! The only time here in the US that a dog is allowed to track a downed deer is when they are at a trial or in certain states it is allowed for regular bow hunting seasons. Most of the time, the tracking trials here are used more with rabbits and fox. Although, I have seen one use a 'baby' whitetail type called an Axis or Fallow deer. They are not 'babies' per se, but just a very small breed of the whitetail.
I apprecite all the information! Maybe one day I will be able to come there and see first hand some of your trials! I think that would just be so neat!
Melissa
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