WA Show

[tasha]

Who was the dog at the WA Show this month that had the ripples in her coat?? The dog was in the bitch ring and her behind had distinct ripples in it (marcel?).

The canadians are trying to find a stockhaar coat type as well as the longhair type as part of their DNA profiling. There is a very interesting article on the website.

www.weimaranercanada.org/lh/stockhaar.htm

Supposedly by crossing longhair to shorthair you potentially get a shorthair dog with the following coat type:

Stockhaar coat is short to medium in length and always with a full undercoat. It is symmetrical over the entire dog. In Weimaraners the tail (undocked) has no plume. With or without Marcel (waves) down the back of the neck, &/or over the whither, &/or down the spine, and/or top side of the tail.

I would be very interested to find out if this coat type is possible to identify via DNA profiling.

[weima]

tasha said:

Who was the dog at the WA Show this month that had the ripples in her coat?? The dog was in the bitch ring and her behind had distinct ripples in it (marcel?).

How do you know there was? Was it reported somewhere or did you see it?

[Rachel]

I have noticed lots of short hair dogs which have had ripples in the coat towards the bum, but they are not neccessarily stockhaar coats, as I have seen one bitch with a stockhaar coat. Their was a thread on here a while back with a picture of a bitch.

[weima]

I have known a few but they've had the wavy coat as pups & once they've dropped their puppy coat it has gone.

[tasha]

I saw the bitch it stuck out when I saw her which is why I remembered at the time I was talking to Andrea about Long Hair Coats and how the carrier etc works.

Considering they developed the SRHP to try and reintroduce the stockhaar coat in the weimaraner this is an interesting test to develop. Potentially the coat could I suppose be lost after the first shed but the DNA doesn't change.

[tasha]

I have made an enquiry to the DNA centre regarding the stockhaar coat test and this is the reply:

It appears the Stockhaars are the result of the carrier (having one copy of the long hair allele) although I doubt all carriers will be considered stockhaar. The test is predominantly designed to identify short-coated parents that carry the long coated allele.

Also, we are interested in add new coat color tests in the future as well

[maelstrom mary]

Roxy was there, but I do not think that she was the culprit, Tasha!!

marylbx

[tasha]

sorry Mary I was hiding most of the classes so all the grey bodies sort of ran into each other, besides mace who I can recognise anywhere

[Alkemist]

hmmm Tasha I cannot help on the dog you think you have seen, but I can give you a pedigree name of one of my dogs that I can confirm had this coat type. Unfortunately we lost him last year, but for sure he had a distinct checkerboard pattern on his back near the base of the tail, and the good thing is I know he was from l/h dogs, he had Reeman Aruac in there, and his maternal lines had a shorthaired bitch from a LHC (Reeman Aruac) / LH litter in there, have a look, his pedigree name was Vandergrey Smokey Shadow, DOB 15.08.1993. He had a fantastic coat, beautiful colour, really quite thick and soft. Oh how I wish we had something from him..............

Is this type of thing any help to you??? Or are you only interested in living dogs?

www.alkemistweimaraners.com/Picasa_HTML_Exports/Gallery/target40.html

This is him in old age, most of our images of him are from non-digital cameras, but you might be able to slightly pick out the pattern along his back. In our case, the pattern went further up his back as he aged.

[greyghost]

I'm not sure what I am looking for on the photo Nina. Holly has zig zag down the bottom of her back - am I on the right tracks

[tasha]

Thanks thats brilliant, I wonder if any of the littermates are still around or if any of them produced?? There were four litters I have in my database another matching your dogs pairing and two to Ansona Murphy with lowrys grey lady who has the LH in her peds.

Be interesting to see if any of them had this distinct gene as well as being a LH carrier, these are the litter mates or full siblings that I have as having bred a litter.

VANDERGREY SILVER VENTURE (x PHARISES PETREL)
VANDERGREY CARENZA (x SIREVA SACKADALLION WITH LOWERDON 2litters)
VANDERGREY AMAZING GRACE (x ANSONA MURPHY 3 litters last in 2000)

I wonder if the trait passed on to other pups?? What an interesting topic

[Alkemist]

Les it's a bad illustration really, you can just catch the odd little highlight if you look really hard.

I don't know anything about his litter siblings offspring tash, sorry.

Nina