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Post by Wetdog on Nov 21, 2005 14:55:12 GMT 1
Well, Enka got a swelling on one side of her face today and I took her to the vet. She has two broken teeth, upper premolars. The left side has an infection that goes deep up into the maxilla(upper jaw). She's on Cephilaxin now and and scheduled to go in for sections and extractions on Wed.
Her pain threshold must be very high--they are pretty bad breaks, but she's just been going along like everything normal, no problem, so I don't know how long she's had them.
Enka is my Weim. If she is in pain, she sure hasn't shown it, but then that is nothing new. On a walk a few days ago, we were in tall grass, and I called them because I couldn't see them. I had bent over to tie my shoe and she came charging out of the grass and collided with me. She was at full run and I swear it was JUST like being hit by a truck. She was fine, hardly even slowed her down--and I had a huge painful bruise that lasted over two weeks(I wouldn't be surprised if I had broken ribs but didn't get an xray--you don't do anything for broken ribs so what is the point of getting the xray?)
Anyway--she's on Deramaxx now for pain, and antibiotic.
I was planning on showing her when Irena gets here, but I guess that removing two teeth will end that idea. I'll have to check the standard but I'm pretty sure that missing teeth is a disqualifying fault. DARN.
Enka has always been an industrial strength chewer. No rocks, but she has been known to chew up live oak sticks as big as your arm--pretty hard stuff. Live oak is what they built the USS Constitution out of--hence the nickname, Old Ironsides, because cannon balls bounced right off.
I just went to give Enka her Cephelaxin--she gets two capsules, a large green one and a smaller red and gray one. Of COARSE, everyone else has to come stick their nose in to see what she's getting that they aren't. I didn't get them quite far down the back of her throat so Enka squirmed the green capsule out with the back of her tongue and spit it out. AS SOON as it hit the floor, Riga zoomed in and grabbed it and swallowed it before I could EVEN let go of Enka's muzzle. THIS from a dog that is like trying to wrestle a gorilla trying to get a pill down her!!!! SHEEEESH--I guess if I want to give pills to Enka, I need to try to stick them down Riga's throat.............oh well.
So for anyone who thought my girls are perfect and everything goes smoothly like clockwork around here all the time----sorry to disappoint you----we have our share of bumbles too. LMAO
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Post by marjolein on Nov 21, 2005 15:52:47 GMT 1
Poor Enka!!! But no worries Fred. I had to extract one of Mowgli's front teeth and wrote a vet letter. This is nothing hereditary, but caused by trauma. So as long as you have a vets note, it should be ok.
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Post by Wetdog on Nov 21, 2005 16:50:50 GMT 1
Poor Enka!!! But no worries Fred. I had to extract one of Mowgli's front teeth and wrote a vet letter. This is nothing hereditary, but caused by trauma. So as long as you have a vets note, it should be ok. That's what Irena and I were thinking---we'll probably try that and see how it goes. I used to have Dobermans and the standard and the judges were VERY specific about teeth. The Weim judges don't seem to be picky about them as the Dobe judges. |
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Post by marjolein on Nov 21, 2005 17:03:59 GMT 1
Well, they are quite picky over here, especially in Germany. But with an explaining letter that it was due to trauma, it shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by daniela on Nov 21, 2005 19:57:37 GMT 1
Oooh sounds painful.
I have had two abscesses over the years (me personally not the dog!). One was a broken tooth which was very, very painful and the other was also caused by a broken tooth and although my face swelled with the latter, I felt no pain.
Does the AKC give permission to show? In that if you get a vet's letter they can pass it by committee to grant permission?
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Post by Wetdog on Nov 22, 2005 3:12:40 GMT 1
As of right now, I don't know how it works Daniela--I'll post what I find out when I do.
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Post by syrinx on Nov 22, 2005 12:33:28 GMT 1
In Australia it is OK as long as you have a certificate from the Vet to say the dog was born with teeth, but lost them due to an accident or something. We just had a problem at the National as Phantom's father had that exact thing happen. The certificate was presented but the judge wouldn't accept it (even though they are supposed to follow our rules) and his father was down graded to Very Good, which is a shame as he is just a BEAUTIFUL dog. I am going to use him over one of my bitches. I like him much more than anything else over here. And as we only have Nationals every 5 years, which I think is far too long, he will have to wear that grading.
So make sure you get that certificate!!!
Wendy
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Post by daniela on Nov 22, 2005 21:21:43 GMT 1
How did you guys find the grading system?
In the UK, my dogs have never been graded but I have been to shows overseas where the dogs have been graded.
At first, I was quite excited about the idea until everyone else around me appeared to be getting excellent too!
I thought it was a one off but having been to a few overseas shows, the same thing happened again, with the odd very good grade too.
I do not want to take the shine out of anyone's wins (including anything I have won!) but is it common to hand out those grades liberally or just a coincidence that it has happened at the shows that I have attended?
What does everyone think?
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Post by Jaeger on Nov 22, 2005 22:28:05 GMT 1
I am known with the Enlish method and the FCI method of grading. Both can be done well. But... The judges do their judging in their own way. Some want to be popular and give 99 % an excellent, so the people say he is good. When we ask him again he will give us many entries. I won't give a high value to that kind of qualifications. Some judges know who is on the other side of the leash and judge that aspect too. Judging is difficult there is always a certain subjectivity in the judging. But a good judge, a specialist in the breed, will keep up the standard.
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Post by Jaeger on Nov 22, 2005 22:37:23 GMT 1
Sorry to hear that from Enka, Fred. And hearing that you are willing to show her. I know, in spite of the letter of the vet. what will happen. At some judges you will get your excellent (if deserved), but there are more judges who will give Enka no more then a "Very Good" in spite of the vets letter.
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Post by Wetdog on Nov 23, 2005 1:29:12 GMT 1
Thanks Wim, and I suspect you are right. We'll try it and see anyway. Even if it doesn't fly(showing) she's still a wonderful gal to have around, that's good enough for me.
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Post by Wetdog on Nov 23, 2005 1:32:43 GMT 1
BTW Wim, how about posting the story about getting dishes clean with coldwater on here, I loved it. I think everyone might get some use out of helpful household hints like that.
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Post by syrinx on Nov 23, 2005 13:07:58 GMT 1
Well, I wasn't sure of the grading as there were only about 8 or 9 who were VG, none lower. At first I thought it was wonderful, but they just kept coming....... The judge was Mr Marek Paszkiewicz of Poland. I don't know what he is like as a judge. He is supposed to have said that when he gets back to Europe he is going to raise his standards of what he considers Excellent to be due to the quality of dogs here. But as he only spoke Polish, I don't actually know what he said for two days. Someone had organised a large sound system and microphones for the critiques to be broadcast - and only spoke Polish, and most of us here only speak English. So we all listened to Polish critiques for two days. Still I know the word for 'good' in Polish now! LOL!
With the tooth thing, Aussie judges always accept it, so watch for Australian judges and show under them!
Wendy
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Post by syrinx on Nov 23, 2005 14:12:05 GMT 1
Hey Fred, better idea. Get the certificate and send her out here. I can send her back to you titled, and maybe with a longhaired little sister or brother?  Wendy |
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Post by daniela on Nov 23, 2005 21:13:52 GMT 1
That's amazing that the judge gave his critiques over loud speaker.
It's one thing to be able to sit down and think through how you will phrase things in a written report but another thing to have the skill to think it through before commenting on the spot.
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Post by Jaeger on Nov 23, 2005 22:10:51 GMT 1
Sorry to say, but if a judge goes abroad imo he/she has to speak more than one language. Luckely this judge had an interpreter when he judged in Austria last year, so we could understand what he said. And if he spoke his critics over a speaker he shoud at least have spoken in English.
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Post by syrinx on Nov 24, 2005 2:07:52 GMT 1
Well, he had an interpreter, his partner, but she didn't translate the critiques. All he said in English was 'Excellent, Very Good, Thank You' and he could read the numbers as well. We get judges here all the time who don't speak English, and just point and grunt in the direction they want you to go. Most people born in Australia only speak English. One of the things that seems wonderful about living in Europe is that so many people speak several languages.
Wendy
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Post by Wetdog on Nov 24, 2005 3:59:46 GMT 1
Well, Enka is home and she is doing fine. Still got some swelling on the left side of her face, but that will probably just take a few days to go down.
It took Dixie and Riga about two seconds and two sniffs to figure out exactly where her surgeries were and lick her there(I also had the vet remove a small skin tag from her back side as well while she was under the anesthesia--she has a couple of stitches there). Although Enka carried on as if nothing too unusual had happened, Riga has been worried sick all day about what happened to her best friend in the whole world, you never saw a happier dog than when she saw Enka come back.
Enka has had her antibiotic and a Deramaxx for pain which seems to be making her sleepy--she's in her usual napping place on the end of the bed, sort of half snoozing but no matter how soundly she looks like she is sleeping, and no matter how quiet I would try to be, I couldn't possibly sneak out into the kitchen and open the refrigerator door unobserved.
Wendy, thanks for the offer---LOL---I'm sure Enka could swim down there with no problem, but I don't think I could throw the stick that far. I like the looks of the LH's I've seen in the pictures, but I've never seen one in person.
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Post by syrinx on Nov 24, 2005 8:40:27 GMT 1
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Post by marjolein on Nov 24, 2005 9:56:37 GMT 1
Hehehehe...
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